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	<title>Comments on: The Vehicular Thomas Crowne Affair: how to creatively defeat photo radar</title>
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		<title>By: Answer My Searches &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quick Searches and Answers</title>
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		<description>[...] Defeat Traffic Light Cams with an Ambiguous Vanity PlateIt might be worth a try. I wonder what 1l1lll1 will look like on my truck? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dr.F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PRSKS and a few others from above are exactly right. We are told that virtually everything that enslaves us, controls us, erodes our rights, and makes us ill (vaccines, for example) are for our SAFETY. What a crock. This has been done by many previous fascist states over the generations to grab more power and control over the common sheeple (like &quot;Leslie&quot; from above), who have been trained to obey even the most ridiculous or heinous of laws (actually &quot;by-laws&quot; and &quot;statutes&quot; would be more accurate). 

Sure, photo radar is partially about the revenue, but it is more about monitoring us in as many places and by as many means as possible. London, England is a great example as the average Londoner is on camera at least 350 times per day. But, notice when any major crime or killing happens (Princess Dianna assassination, or the guy shot and killed on the London Tube by the cops a few years back, or the so-called 9/11 terrorists at the airports) the cameras ARE NEVER WORKING!! What a great coincidence...  

Those &quot;cameras&quot; all over the PHX area are filming 24/7, not just snapping photos of crazy boy racers who might deserve to be fined. Driving the 51 to the I-10 is like driving a gauntlet, with sudden drops to 55MPH, driver&#039;s slamming on brakes, super bright lights flashing in your eyes; it really is distracting and more dangerous than it was 5 years ago. The ability to track and monitor and eavesdrop on regular citizens is getting out of hand in this country, and has actually surpassed George Orwell&#039;s &quot;1984&quot; in scope. Did you know your new HDTV is taking super high resolution video of you and your family as you sit stupidly in front of it. Oh, you thought our Federal Government just wanted us to watch our football in hi-def??!! Wake up to the purpose of all this tech. 

As an analogy, we are living in about the year 1942 in Nazi Germany without any exaggeration at all. The parallels are stunning. My question is not how to beat a lousy ticket, but how to beat the oppressors back. How to roll back the on-coming police state. How to wake up the sheeple. Those are the pressing issues, not getting a personal license plate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PRSKS and a few others from above are exactly right. We are told that virtually everything that enslaves us, controls us, erodes our rights, and makes us ill (vaccines, for example) are for our SAFETY. What a crock. This has been done by many previous fascist states over the generations to grab more power and control over the common sheeple (like &#8220;Leslie&#8221; from above), who have been trained to obey even the most ridiculous or heinous of laws (actually &#8220;by-laws&#8221; and &#8220;statutes&#8221; would be more accurate). </p>
<p>Sure, photo radar is partially about the revenue, but it is more about monitoring us in as many places and by as many means as possible. London, England is a great example as the average Londoner is on camera at least 350 times per day. But, notice when any major crime or killing happens (Princess Dianna assassination, or the guy shot and killed on the London Tube by the cops a few years back, or the so-called 9/11 terrorists at the airports) the cameras ARE NEVER WORKING!! What a great coincidence&#8230;  </p>
<p>Those &#8220;cameras&#8221; all over the PHX area are filming 24/7, not just snapping photos of crazy boy racers who might deserve to be fined. Driving the 51 to the I-10 is like driving a gauntlet, with sudden drops to 55MPH, driver&#8217;s slamming on brakes, super bright lights flashing in your eyes; it really is distracting and more dangerous than it was 5 years ago. The ability to track and monitor and eavesdrop on regular citizens is getting out of hand in this country, and has actually surpassed George Orwell&#8217;s &#8220;1984&#8243; in scope. Did you know your new HDTV is taking super high resolution video of you and your family as you sit stupidly in front of it. Oh, you thought our Federal Government just wanted us to watch our football in hi-def??!! Wake up to the purpose of all this tech. </p>
<p>As an analogy, we are living in about the year 1942 in Nazi Germany without any exaggeration at all. The parallels are stunning. My question is not how to beat a lousy ticket, but how to beat the oppressors back. How to roll back the on-coming police state. How to wake up the sheeple. Those are the pressing issues, not getting a personal license plate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Endi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Sean, its time for my California personalized plate to be changed. Appreciate the creativity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Sean, its time for my California personalized plate to be changed. Appreciate the creativity!</p>
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		<title>By: M.Trust</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.Trust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;active scanning&#039; cameras are
blatantly un-constitutional police state technology. 
However, if they are noticeably different in appearance, we can just get a good pellet gun and cost them thousands of dollars.
They&#039;ll go broke with maintenance costs.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;active scanning&#8217; cameras are<br />
blatantly un-constitutional police state technology.<br />
However, if they are noticeably different in appearance, we can just get a good pellet gun and cost them thousands of dollars.<br />
They&#8217;ll go broke with maintenance costs.. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Underscore Sterno&#039;s comments.  Where did Nathan learn binary?  

Leslie:  Get real.  With the millions of citations issued, mostly just being paid or ruled on by some judge, who also works for the political system to collect revenue, you really don&#039;t think that the fine line between a split-second at an intersection or a mile or two on the freeway isn&#039;t calibrated to the side of the money, do you?  Huge dollars on that fine line which most people won&#039;t fight.

I&#039;ll try to abbreviate a long story, but I worked very hard to PROVE that a Mesa red light camera was slightly tweaked to the advantage of the for-profit company and the city.  Yes, it&#039;s true.  At a recorded 41 mph (the speed of the traffic flow, I was six feet legal, more than the margin of error.  I am a professional driver and I knew exactly where I was whenever the flash occurred. I went to the intersection, video&#039;d numerous cars, measured distances, etc. to engineer charts and other hard evidence.  Well prepared, I was waiting in the courtroom and was called out of the courtroom by an officer, who offered me the option of appearing or of the city to drop the whole case.  Seems that my trips to the PD and the very rude &quot;Traffic Violations Bureau&quot; were noted and they decided that they had better drop the hot potato before establishing the precedent of case law of the judge&#039;s ruling in the matter.  It seems that &quot;whenever they looked closer, they decided that I was legal, after all.&quot;.

Strangest damn thing . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Underscore Sterno&#8217;s comments.  Where did Nathan learn binary?  </p>
<p>Leslie:  Get real.  With the millions of citations issued, mostly just being paid or ruled on by some judge, who also works for the political system to collect revenue, you really don&#8217;t think that the fine line between a split-second at an intersection or a mile or two on the freeway isn&#8217;t calibrated to the side of the money, do you?  Huge dollars on that fine line which most people won&#8217;t fight.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to abbreviate a long story, but I worked very hard to PROVE that a Mesa red light camera was slightly tweaked to the advantage of the for-profit company and the city.  Yes, it&#8217;s true.  At a recorded 41 mph (the speed of the traffic flow, I was six feet legal, more than the margin of error.  I am a professional driver and I knew exactly where I was whenever the flash occurred. I went to the intersection, video&#8217;d numerous cars, measured distances, etc. to engineer charts and other hard evidence.  Well prepared, I was waiting in the courtroom and was called out of the courtroom by an officer, who offered me the option of appearing or of the city to drop the whole case.  Seems that my trips to the PD and the very rude &#8220;Traffic Violations Bureau&#8221; were noted and they decided that they had better drop the hot potato before establishing the precedent of case law of the judge&#8217;s ruling in the matter.  It seems that &#8220;whenever they looked closer, they decided that I was legal, after all.&#8221;.</p>
<p>Strangest damn thing . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Scrollin&#8217; On Dubs &#187; Photo radar in Arizona is out of hand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrollin&#8217; On Dubs &#187; Photo radar in Arizona is out of hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I pulled a stunt with my license plate a year ago because I was so disgusted by photo radar. They should just make the highways toll roads and be straight up about the motivation here. It&#8217;s projected that they&#8217;ll cover $90MM of a $165MM budget shortfall this year via the new highway photo radar &#8220;scameras.&#8221; How many accidents will occur during that time from the erratic braking of surprised motorists- and who will pay for those accidents? At the very least if we must live with photo radar, the for-profit entity that implements the cameras should not share in the recurring revenue generated by the cameras. As it stands now Redflex is incentivized to maximize the frequency and amounts of fines and lobby for measures that bolster the use of photo radar. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I pulled a stunt with my license plate a year ago because I was so disgusted by photo radar. They should just make the highways toll roads and be straight up about the motivation here. It&#8217;s projected that they&#8217;ll cover $90MM of a $165MM budget shortfall this year via the new highway photo radar &#8220;scameras.&#8221; How many accidents will occur during that time from the erratic braking of surprised motorists- and who will pay for those accidents? At the very least if we must live with photo radar, the for-profit entity that implements the cameras should not share in the recurring revenue generated by the cameras. As it stands now Redflex is incentivized to maximize the frequency and amounts of fines and lobby for measures that bolster the use of photo radar. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a possible solution: If the photo radar is truly about safety, the government should put low-intensity flashing red and blue lights atop every photo-radar site to remind drivers to slow down. Those who ignore the lights take their chances with a ticket. Fair enough?  Of course not. If the government did that, everyone would see the cameras and slow down, and the government&#039;s  revenue would dry up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a possible solution: If the photo radar is truly about safety, the government should put low-intensity flashing red and blue lights atop every photo-radar site to remind drivers to slow down. Those who ignore the lights take their chances with a ticket. Fair enough?  Of course not. If the government did that, everyone would see the cameras and slow down, and the government&#8217;s  revenue would dry up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sickened by Photo Radar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sickened by Photo Radar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean you are a saint and the world needs more like you!!! Leslie and the rest of the 54 mph left lane drivers, please take the bus or stay home.
Lets do some rational thinking here. The radars are set for 11 or 12 over the posted speed limit. Therefore it would stand to reason that the department deploying them that 10 over is still a safe speed. If not then they would set them lower and lower until they were all set at the posted speed. The police KNOW that people will drive 10 over, why not up all of those speed limits to what people are driving and enforce them from there? Am I to believe that Leslie and her ilk have NEVER driven even one mile over the speed limit? Oh, you have, then you are &quot;a lawbreaker&quot; too and should turn yourself in to the local authorities. Sean you are all over what the paper and the news all refuse to cover, it&#039;s ALL about $$$$. If not why would ATS and Redflex be trying to slit each others throats over the contract. Becasue of the amount of money THEY are about to make. How about this Leslie and Brittany et al., you guys stay home or in the far right lane and we can all pay an extra $20 a year for a special endoresment on our plate and drivers license and we can go 20-30 over. 

&quot;Do you die any dead-er when you crash at 56 MPH&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean you are a saint and the world needs more like you!!! Leslie and the rest of the 54 mph left lane drivers, please take the bus or stay home.<br />
Lets do some rational thinking here. The radars are set for 11 or 12 over the posted speed limit. Therefore it would stand to reason that the department deploying them that 10 over is still a safe speed. If not then they would set them lower and lower until they were all set at the posted speed. The police KNOW that people will drive 10 over, why not up all of those speed limits to what people are driving and enforce them from there? Am I to believe that Leslie and her ilk have NEVER driven even one mile over the speed limit? Oh, you have, then you are &#8220;a lawbreaker&#8221; too and should turn yourself in to the local authorities. Sean you are all over what the paper and the news all refuse to cover, it&#8217;s ALL about $$$$. If not why would ATS and Redflex be trying to slit each others throats over the contract. Becasue of the amount of money THEY are about to make. How about this Leslie and Brittany et al., you guys stay home or in the far right lane and we can all pay an extra $20 a year for a special endoresment on our plate and drivers license and we can go 20-30 over. </p>
<p>&#8220;Do you die any dead-er when you crash at 56 MPH&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PRSKS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRSKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speed is not the problem it&#039;s the majority of idiots who can&#039;t drive. I learned to drive in Germany and spent lots of time flying down the autobahn 110 miles an hour and not even one mishap. In Germany you don&#039;t get your license when you turn 16, you have to pay to go to driving school or you take the bus. The question is not speed, it&#039;s the system, just like the Nazi&#039;s slowly took away peoples rights, that&#039;s whats happening here. First photo vans in PV, then Scottsdale, then intersections, then the freeway, cameras on top of light poles at intersections, now OCR optical character readers to track your movements, RFID chips in your drivers license, in your clothes. Hey, the government just wants you to be SAFE, The cameras are a TAX, a revenue generator, I can&#039;t count the number of times I&#039;ve had to hit my brakes because some moron in front of me had a panic attack because of the cameras, do the cities keep stats on rear end collisions as a result of the cameras, I think not, because that could be used as an argument against the cameras. You sheeple  think this is about safety, most of all the posts are about speeding and driving the speed limit, have you thought about your privacy and how more and more you are loosing your rights to the government. Having all OOOOO&#039;s on your plate just gave felons an idea to defeat the cameras, that&#039;s brilliant, first the guy would have to be speeding to get his picture taken, hey! let&#039;s put an RFID chip in the guys arm so that when he&#039;s speeding past the camera it will take his picture and then transmit his Picture, name, address ssan,race, age, fingerprints, sexual orientation, medical history, criminal convictions to the cops, who wipe the crumbs off the spill proof keyboard, who then contact onstar who track him with the vehicles built in satellite GPS and transmit that data to norad who scrmbles an F22 Raptor to put a Sparrow missle up his rear, only he survives and goes to the hospital which already has his medical info from the RFID only the chip is a clone, sherrif joe arrests the guy because he&#039;s an illegal, they don&#039;t take his picture because the RFID sent it to the cops along with his fingerprints. A dirtbag criminal would put a stolen plate from the same model car on his before he would put all OOOO&#039;s on his own car. How do I know?, because I was a victim of a dirtbag fellon who had a stolen plate on his car, the cops never found him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speed is not the problem it&#8217;s the majority of idiots who can&#8217;t drive. I learned to drive in Germany and spent lots of time flying down the autobahn 110 miles an hour and not even one mishap. In Germany you don&#8217;t get your license when you turn 16, you have to pay to go to driving school or you take the bus. The question is not speed, it&#8217;s the system, just like the Nazi&#8217;s slowly took away peoples rights, that&#8217;s whats happening here. First photo vans in PV, then Scottsdale, then intersections, then the freeway, cameras on top of light poles at intersections, now OCR optical character readers to track your movements, RFID chips in your drivers license, in your clothes. Hey, the government just wants you to be SAFE, The cameras are a TAX, a revenue generator, I can&#8217;t count the number of times I&#8217;ve had to hit my brakes because some moron in front of me had a panic attack because of the cameras, do the cities keep stats on rear end collisions as a result of the cameras, I think not, because that could be used as an argument against the cameras. You sheeple  think this is about safety, most of all the posts are about speeding and driving the speed limit, have you thought about your privacy and how more and more you are loosing your rights to the government. Having all OOOOO&#8217;s on your plate just gave felons an idea to defeat the cameras, that&#8217;s brilliant, first the guy would have to be speeding to get his picture taken, hey! let&#8217;s put an RFID chip in the guys arm so that when he&#8217;s speeding past the camera it will take his picture and then transmit his Picture, name, address ssan,race, age, fingerprints, sexual orientation, medical history, criminal convictions to the cops, who wipe the crumbs off the spill proof keyboard, who then contact onstar who track him with the vehicles built in satellite GPS and transmit that data to norad who scrmbles an F22 Raptor to put a Sparrow missle up his rear, only he survives and goes to the hospital which already has his medical info from the RFID only the chip is a clone, sherrif joe arrests the guy because he&#8217;s an illegal, they don&#8217;t take his picture because the RFID sent it to the cops along with his fingerprints. A dirtbag criminal would put a stolen plate from the same model car on his before he would put all OOOO&#8217;s on his own car. How do I know?, because I was a victim of a dirtbag fellon who had a stolen plate on his car, the cops never found him!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If any1 wants to get some of that reflective spray Sean mentioned in #1, it is available here -&gt; http://www.PreventTicket.com/

It really works, Check out the video review by fox news --&gt; http://www.PreventTicket.com/flash/Fox31.wmv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any1 wants to get some of that reflective spray Sean mentioned in #1, it is available here -&gt; <a href="http://www.PreventTicket.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.PreventTicket.com/</a></p>
<p>It really works, Check out the video review by fox news &#8211;&gt; <a href="http://www.PreventTicket.com/flash/Fox31.wmv" rel="nofollow">http://www.PreventTicket.com/flash/Fox31.wmv</a></p>
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