Comments on: The Vehicular Thomas Crowne Affair: how to creatively defeat photo radar http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/ Sean Tierney's Blog Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:58:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Talbot Runhof http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-473833 Talbot Runhof Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:31:52 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-473833 This is what I call creativity - thanks for the tipps ;-)... This is what I call creativity – thanks for the tipps ;-)…

]]> By: Izkata http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-410905 Izkata Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:27:36 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-410905 Oh, and our speed limits are around 55 and 60 mph, not the 75 from elsewhere in the country. Oh, and our speed limits are around 55 and 60 mph, not the 75 from elsewhere in the country.

]]> By: Izkata http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-410903 Izkata Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:26:40 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-410903 I know this is a very old article, but I have to say - to everyone saying that these cameras are calibrated for 12 mph or so over the speed limit: You're wrong, at least in some places. There are at least one or two in Illinois that will snap a picture of your plate if the light changes to yellow a split second before entering intersection (too late to slow down), while going at the speed limit. I know this is a very old article, but I have to say – to everyone saying that these cameras are calibrated for 12 mph or so over the speed limit: You're wrong, at least in some places.

There are at least one or two in Illinois that will snap a picture of your plate if the light changes to yellow a split second before entering intersection (too late to slow down), while going at the speed limit.

]]> By: Answer My Searches » Blog Archive » Quick Searches and Answers http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-376174 Answer My Searches » Blog Archive » Quick Searches and Answers Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:34:59 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-376174 [...] Defeat Traffic Light Cams with an Ambiguous Vanity PlateIt might be worth a try. I wonder what 1l1lll1 will look like on my truck? [...] [...] Defeat Traffic Light Cams with an Ambiguous Vanity PlateIt might be worth a try. I wonder what 1l1lll1 will look like on my truck? [...]

]]> By: Dr.F http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-340093 Dr.F Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:49:59 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-340093 PRSKS and a few others from above are exactly right. We are told that virtually everything that enslaves us, controls us, erodes our rights, and makes us ill (vaccines, for example) are for our SAFETY. What a crock. This has been done by many previous fascist states over the generations to grab more power and control over the common sheeple (like "Leslie" from above), who have been trained to obey even the most ridiculous or heinous of laws (actually "by-laws" and "statutes" would be more accurate). Sure, photo radar is partially about the revenue, but it is more about monitoring us in as many places and by as many means as possible. London, England is a great example as the average Londoner is on camera at least 350 times per day. But, notice when any major crime or killing happens (Princess Dianna assassination, or the guy shot and killed on the London Tube by the cops a few years back, or the so-called 9/11 terrorists at the airports) the cameras ARE NEVER WORKING!! What a great coincidence... Those "cameras" all over the PHX area are filming 24/7, not just snapping photos of crazy boy racers who might deserve to be fined. Driving the 51 to the I-10 is like driving a gauntlet, with sudden drops to 55MPH, driver's slamming on brakes, super bright lights flashing in your eyes; it really is distracting and more dangerous than it was 5 years ago. The ability to track and monitor and eavesdrop on regular citizens is getting out of hand in this country, and has actually surpassed George Orwell's "1984" in scope. Did you know your new HDTV is taking super high resolution video of you and your family as you sit stupidly in front of it. Oh, you thought our Federal Government just wanted us to watch our football in hi-def??!! Wake up to the purpose of all this tech. As an analogy, we are living in about the year 1942 in Nazi Germany without any exaggeration at all. The parallels are stunning. My question is not how to beat a lousy ticket, but how to beat the oppressors back. How to roll back the on-coming police state. How to wake up the sheeple. Those are the pressing issues, not getting a personal license plate... PRSKS and a few others from above are exactly right. We are told that virtually everything that enslaves us, controls us, erodes our rights, and makes us ill (vaccines, for example) are for our SAFETY. What a crock. This has been done by many previous fascist states over the generations to grab more power and control over the common sheeple (like “Leslie” from above), who have been trained to obey even the most ridiculous or heinous of laws (actually “by-laws” and “statutes” would be more accurate).

Sure, photo radar is partially about the revenue, but it is more about monitoring us in as many places and by as many means as possible. London, England is a great example as the average Londoner is on camera at least 350 times per day. But, notice when any major crime or killing happens (Princess Dianna assassination, or the guy shot and killed on the London Tube by the cops a few years back, or the so-called 9/11 terrorists at the airports) the cameras ARE NEVER WORKING!! What a great coincidence…

Those “cameras” all over the PHX area are filming 24/7, not just snapping photos of crazy boy racers who might deserve to be fined. Driving the 51 to the I-10 is like driving a gauntlet, with sudden drops to 55MPH, driver’s slamming on brakes, super bright lights flashing in your eyes; it really is distracting and more dangerous than it was 5 years ago. The ability to track and monitor and eavesdrop on regular citizens is getting out of hand in this country, and has actually surpassed George Orwell’s “1984″ in scope. Did you know your new HDTV is taking super high resolution video of you and your family as you sit stupidly in front of it. Oh, you thought our Federal Government just wanted us to watch our football in hi-def??!! Wake up to the purpose of all this tech.

As an analogy, we are living in about the year 1942 in Nazi Germany without any exaggeration at all. The parallels are stunning. My question is not how to beat a lousy ticket, but how to beat the oppressors back. How to roll back the on-coming police state. How to wake up the sheeple. Those are the pressing issues, not getting a personal license plate…

]]> By: Endi http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-329052 Endi Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:33:59 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-329052 Thank you Sean, its time for my California personalized plate to be changed. Appreciate the creativity! Thank you Sean, its time for my California personalized plate to be changed. Appreciate the creativity!

]]> By: M.Trust http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-325116 M.Trust Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:57:02 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-325116 The 'active scanning' cameras are blatantly un-constitutional police state technology. However, if they are noticeably different in appearance, we can just get a good pellet gun and cost them thousands of dollars. They'll go broke with maintenance costs.. :) The ‘active scanning’ cameras are
blatantly un-constitutional police state technology.
However, if they are noticeably different in appearance, we can just get a good pellet gun and cost them thousands of dollars.
They’ll go broke with maintenance costs.. :)

]]> By: Dennis http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-321253 Dennis Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:37:42 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-321253 Underscore Sterno's comments. Where did Nathan learn binary? Leslie: Get real. With the millions of citations issued, mostly just being paid or ruled on by some judge, who also works for the political system to collect revenue, you really don't think that the fine line between a split-second at an intersection or a mile or two on the freeway isn't calibrated to the side of the money, do you? Huge dollars on that fine line which most people won't fight. I'll try to abbreviate a long story, but I worked very hard to PROVE that a Mesa red light camera was slightly tweaked to the advantage of the for-profit company and the city. Yes, it's true. At a recorded 41 mph (the speed of the traffic flow, I was six feet legal, more than the margin of error. I am a professional driver and I knew exactly where I was whenever the flash occurred. I went to the intersection, video'd numerous cars, measured distances, etc. to engineer charts and other hard evidence. Well prepared, I was waiting in the courtroom and was called out of the courtroom by an officer, who offered me the option of appearing or of the city to drop the whole case. Seems that my trips to the PD and the very rude "Traffic Violations Bureau" were noted and they decided that they had better drop the hot potato before establishing the precedent of case law of the judge's ruling in the matter. It seems that "whenever they looked closer, they decided that I was legal, after all.". Strangest damn thing . . . Underscore Sterno’s comments. Where did Nathan learn binary?

Leslie: Get real. With the millions of citations issued, mostly just being paid or ruled on by some judge, who also works for the political system to collect revenue, you really don’t think that the fine line between a split-second at an intersection or a mile or two on the freeway isn’t calibrated to the side of the money, do you? Huge dollars on that fine line which most people won’t fight.

I’ll try to abbreviate a long story, but I worked very hard to PROVE that a Mesa red light camera was slightly tweaked to the advantage of the for-profit company and the city. Yes, it’s true. At a recorded 41 mph (the speed of the traffic flow, I was six feet legal, more than the margin of error. I am a professional driver and I knew exactly where I was whenever the flash occurred. I went to the intersection, video’d numerous cars, measured distances, etc. to engineer charts and other hard evidence. Well prepared, I was waiting in the courtroom and was called out of the courtroom by an officer, who offered me the option of appearing or of the city to drop the whole case. Seems that my trips to the PD and the very rude “Traffic Violations Bureau” were noted and they decided that they had better drop the hot potato before establishing the precedent of case law of the judge’s ruling in the matter. It seems that “whenever they looked closer, they decided that I was legal, after all.”.

Strangest damn thing . . .

]]> By: Scrollin’ On Dubs » Photo radar in Arizona is out of hand http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-320170 Scrollin’ On Dubs » Photo radar in Arizona is out of hand Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:00:23 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-320170 [...] I pulled a stunt with my license plate a year ago because I was so disgusted by photo radar. They should just make the highways toll roads and be straight up about the motivation here. It’s projected that they’ll cover $90MM of a $165MM budget shortfall this year via the new highway photo radar “scameras.” How many accidents will occur during that time from the erratic braking of surprised motorists- and who will pay for those accidents? At the very least if we must live with photo radar, the for-profit entity that implements the cameras should not share in the recurring revenue generated by the cameras. As it stands now Redflex is incentivized to maximize the frequency and amounts of fines and lobby for measures that bolster the use of photo radar. [...] [...] I pulled a stunt with my license plate a year ago because I was so disgusted by photo radar. They should just make the highways toll roads and be straight up about the motivation here. It’s projected that they’ll cover $90MM of a $165MM budget shortfall this year via the new highway photo radar “scameras.” How many accidents will occur during that time from the erratic braking of surprised motorists- and who will pay for those accidents? At the very least if we must live with photo radar, the for-profit entity that implements the cameras should not share in the recurring revenue generated by the cameras. As it stands now Redflex is incentivized to maximize the frequency and amounts of fines and lobby for measures that bolster the use of photo radar. [...]

]]> By: Jason http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/comment-page-1/#comment-307326 Jason Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:08:16 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2006/12/19/the-vehicular-thomas-crowne-affair-how-to-creatively-defeat-photo-radar/#comment-307326 Here's a possible solution: If the photo radar is truly about safety, the government should put low-intensity flashing red and blue lights atop every photo-radar site to remind drivers to slow down. Those who ignore the lights take their chances with a ticket. Fair enough? Of course not. If the government did that, everyone would see the cameras and slow down, and the government's revenue would dry up. Here’s a possible solution: If the photo radar is truly about safety, the government should put low-intensity flashing red and blue lights atop every photo-radar site to remind drivers to slow down. Those who ignore the lights take their chances with a ticket. Fair enough? Of course not. If the government did that, everyone would see the cameras and slow down, and the government’s revenue would dry up.

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