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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-332938</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My girlfriend and I just moved here 2 months ago and have been on a quest to find good local places to eat that aren&#039;t named Bianco.
  
We have been generally underwhelmed by the Arizona Republic and the art/food coverage is pathetic.

I&#039;m just happy that other people feel like we do and are attempting to do something about it.  So far we&#039;ve been happy with Carl&#039;s Bad Tavern on Hayden and Grimaldi&#039;s Coal Oven Pizza.

I&#039;ll read the websites suggested and if anyone finds great treasures, please send out a shout!

We refuse to go to Oregano&#039;s out of spite from that idiot review that was clearly an advertisement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My girlfriend and I just moved here 2 months ago and have been on a quest to find good local places to eat that aren&#8217;t named Bianco.</p>
<p>We have been generally underwhelmed by the Arizona Republic and the art/food coverage is pathetic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just happy that other people feel like we do and are attempting to do something about it.  So far we&#8217;ve been happy with Carl&#8217;s Bad Tavern on Hayden and Grimaldi&#8217;s Coal Oven Pizza.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll read the websites suggested and if anyone finds great treasures, please send out a shout!</p>
<p>We refuse to go to Oregano&#8217;s out of spite from that idiot review that was clearly an advertisement.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-204947</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more about the lack of choices when it comes to food here in Phoenix. However, there are some good ones. Here are a some more recommendations:

El Conquistador - small Mexican place with Jalisco-style food on 32nd Street south of Bell Road

Sala Thai - our #1 Thai restaurant in Phoenix, on 32nd Street north of Shea

Joe&#039;s Farm Grill (http://www.joesfarmgrill.com) - Yummy American style food, located way out in Gilbert. Uses a lot of locally grown food. Best bathrooms in Metro Phoenix

Persian Garden Cafe (http://www.persiangardencafe.com/) - Outstanding Middle Eastern/Iranian food that goes way past hummus and tabouli. Vegetarian and vegan-friendly. Now serving organic food. 1335 W. Thomas Road

Last but not least:

Mrs White&#039;s Golden Rule Cafe - A  Phoenix food landmark with most awesome soul food, especially the fried chicken. 808 E Jefferson. Open only on weekdays 11 am - 5 pm and you better be early because they SELL OUT.

If I think a little longer I&#039;ll probably come up with a few more items. But it is true - you can&#039;t argue taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more about the lack of choices when it comes to food here in Phoenix. However, there are some good ones. Here are a some more recommendations:</p>
<p>El Conquistador &#8211; small Mexican place with Jalisco-style food on 32nd Street south of Bell Road</p>
<p>Sala Thai &#8211; our #1 Thai restaurant in Phoenix, on 32nd Street north of Shea</p>
<p>Joe&#8217;s Farm Grill (<a href="http://www.joesfarmgrill.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.joesfarmgrill.com</a>) &#8211; Yummy American style food, located way out in Gilbert. Uses a lot of locally grown food. Best bathrooms in Metro Phoenix</p>
<p>Persian Garden Cafe (<a href="http://www.persiangardencafe.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.persiangardencafe.com/</a>) &#8211; Outstanding Middle Eastern/Iranian food that goes way past hummus and tabouli. Vegetarian and vegan-friendly. Now serving organic food. 1335 W. Thomas Road</p>
<p>Last but not least:</p>
<p>Mrs White&#8217;s Golden Rule Cafe &#8211; A  Phoenix food landmark with most awesome soul food, especially the fried chicken. 808 E Jefferson. Open only on weekdays 11 am &#8211; 5 pm and you better be early because they SELL OUT.</p>
<p>If I think a little longer I&#8217;ll probably come up with a few more items. But it is true &#8211; you can&#8217;t argue taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Shorty</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-186097</link>
		<dc:creator>Shorty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.chowhound.com/</description>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-184826</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob, David and Austin - good call on the chowhound and feastingphoenix sites. They both have some good recommendations and bunch of places I&#039;ve never heard of.  We just need a structured format for all the recommendations - like if everyone were agree to add them to googlebase or mark them up with cuisine and geographic data so the listings become sortable. 

both good resources though- thanks for sharing.

sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob, David and Austin &#8211; good call on the chowhound and feastingphoenix sites. They both have some good recommendations and bunch of places I&#8217;ve never heard of.  We just need a structured format for all the recommendations &#8211; like if everyone were agree to add them to googlebase or mark them up with cuisine and geographic data so the listings become sortable. </p>
<p>both good resources though- thanks for sharing.</p>
<p>sean</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-184818</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a Phoenix food blog with in depth reviews including photos entirely dedicated to eating in Phoenix.

http://feastinginphoenix.com/

I would argue that food suffers the same dilution as everything else in the valley.  Phoenix has lots to offer on every front.  The distances slow the travel of information and even if you know about something the cost (in time, gas and patience) of going may be too high.

Austin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a Phoenix food blog with in depth reviews including photos entirely dedicated to eating in Phoenix.</p>
<p><a href="http://feastinginphoenix.com/" rel="nofollow">http://feastinginphoenix.com/</a></p>
<p>I would argue that food suffers the same dilution as everything else in the valley.  Phoenix has lots to offer on every front.  The distances slow the travel of information and even if you know about something the cost (in time, gas and patience) of going may be too high.</p>
<p>Austin</p>
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		<title>By: David SB</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-184662</link>
		<dc:creator>David SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 22:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I commented on Rob&#039;s blog, these appalling results have more to do with poor survey design than any lack of taste on the part of Phoenix residents. The Republic is trying every Web 2.0 fad it can, even if it means trashing whatever pretense of journalistic quality exists there.

I do find your &quot;pasteurized and lame&quot; statement extreme. Your list of numerous high-quality local restaurants belies such a bleak conclusion. I could come up with a similar list with no overlap of your own.

Of course, not everyone&#039;s going to agree all the time. I never enjoyed the food at the Sesame Inn and will not miss it at all. Nevertheless, from what I&#039;ve seen on your restaurant list, we probably agree more than we disagree.

Since the Republic seems out of touch with the local food scene, the suggestion to focus on alternative media is appropriate. The URL for the actual Chowhound board is http://www.chowhound.com/boards/6. There&#039;s also a SW board on Egullet, reviews on Yelp, and numerous food blogs around town. Fortunately, the gap left by our daily paper&#039;s dysfunction can be filled by many alternative media channels for the  discovery of good restaurants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I commented on Rob&#8217;s blog, these appalling results have more to do with poor survey design than any lack of taste on the part of Phoenix residents. The Republic is trying every Web 2.0 fad it can, even if it means trashing whatever pretense of journalistic quality exists there.</p>
<p>I do find your &#8220;pasteurized and lame&#8221; statement extreme. Your list of numerous high-quality local restaurants belies such a bleak conclusion. I could come up with a similar list with no overlap of your own.</p>
<p>Of course, not everyone&#8217;s going to agree all the time. I never enjoyed the food at the Sesame Inn and will not miss it at all. Nevertheless, from what I&#8217;ve seen on your restaurant list, we probably agree more than we disagree.</p>
<p>Since the Republic seems out of touch with the local food scene, the suggestion to focus on alternative media is appropriate. The URL for the actual Chowhound board is <a href="http://www.chowhound.com/boards/6" rel="nofollow">http://www.chowhound.com/boards/6</a>. There&#8217;s also a SW board on Egullet, reviews on Yelp, and numerous food blogs around town. Fortunately, the gap left by our daily paper&#8217;s dysfunction can be filled by many alternative media channels for the  discovery of good restaurants.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-184635</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 21:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unsubscribed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unsubscribed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Brooks-Bilson</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-184477</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Brooks-Bilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

I&#039;m not aware of any social sites like you are looking for.  However, you might want to check out chow.com&#039;s southwest message board.  It&#039;s pretty active and has all kinds of good info for Phoenix metro.

Also, there&#039;s a Google group spun out of Chowhound for Phoenix local.  Right now, it has about 75 members and is good for recommendations as well as meet-ups.

http://groups.google.com/group/PhoenixHoundGathering

Nice list by the way - I see a lot of places I like there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not aware of any social sites like you are looking for.  However, you might want to check out chow.com&#8217;s southwest message board.  It&#8217;s pretty active and has all kinds of good info for Phoenix metro.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a Google group spun out of Chowhound for Phoenix local.  Right now, it has about 75 members and is good for recommendations as well as meet-ups.</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/PhoenixHoundGathering" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/PhoenixHoundGathering</a></p>
<p>Nice list by the way &#8211; I see a lot of places I like there.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-184298</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bill - straw man argument - stop reading my blog if it offends you and enjoy your Olive Garden.

sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bill &#8211; straw man argument &#8211; stop reading my blog if it offends you and enjoy your Olive Garden.</p>
<p>sean</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/05/17/food-gems-in-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-184210</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 23:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t music and food two of the most subjective and personal subjects possible? What you, in your more refined and sophisticated tastes, or a San Franciscan might regard as unworthy of human consumption, I might really enjoy. People recommending restaurants is a shaky business in the first place for that very reason. I&#039;ve been to a number of the restaurants you recommend and I can&#039;t say I liked them. &lt;em&gt;De gustibus non est disputandum.&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry, but your whole premise offends me at a very deep level. &quot;We Arizonans are clueless&#8230;.&quot; Except you, of course. You know better. The rest of us sheep just watch TV and say, &quot;Must go to Olive Garden for some hospitalissimo.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t music and food two of the most subjective and personal subjects possible? What you, in your more refined and sophisticated tastes, or a San Franciscan might regard as unworthy of human consumption, I might really enjoy. People recommending restaurants is a shaky business in the first place for that very reason. I&#8217;ve been to a number of the restaurants you recommend and I can&#8217;t say I liked them. <em>De gustibus non est disputandum.</em></p>
<p>Sorry, but your whole premise offends me at a very deep level. &#8220;We Arizonans are clueless&hellip;.&#8221; Except you, of course. You know better. The rest of us sheep just watch TV and say, &#8220;Must go to Olive Garden for some hospitalissimo.&#8221;</p>
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