Comments on: Richard Stallman is officially confused http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/ Sean Tierney's Blog Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:58:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: sasha http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-471306 sasha Mon, 09 May 2011 01:09:42 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/#comment-471306 Richard Stallman is right Richard Stallman is right

]]> By: Richard Stallman’s cloud computing nonsense « Webcitizen FelipeC http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-288776 Richard Stallman’s cloud computing nonsense « Webcitizen FelipeC Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:07:56 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/#comment-288776 [...] Richard Stallman is officially confused [...] [...] Richard Stallman is officially confused [...]

]]> By: sean http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-286276 sean Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:05:08 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/#comment-286276 @Jamaal - I'm well-aware Web GUI != SaaS. You can just as easy use an IVR system or an Asterisk service as SaaS... Can you explain where the lock-in is with cloud computing though? I don't see it. Unless you do something special with your application that binds you to a particular cloud computing service there's no reason why you can't pick up your application and go elsewhere with it. For instance I can take a JumpBox running on EC2 and in theory (once we make it work) pick it up and walk next door to 3Terra or GoGrid and drop it on their cloud computing platform- no vendor lock-in. Undoubtedly someone will develop an open source cloud computing platform and when they do we'll build compatibility for that for the ultimate in freedom. I fail to see the straw man argument you refer to. Please elaborate. Sean @Jamaal – I’m well-aware Web GUI != SaaS. You can just as easy use an IVR system or an Asterisk service as SaaS…

Can you explain where the lock-in is with cloud computing though? I don’t see it. Unless you do something special with your application that binds you to a particular cloud computing service there’s no reason why you can’t pick up your application and go elsewhere with it. For instance I can take a JumpBox running on EC2 and in theory (once we make it work) pick it up and walk next door to 3Terra or GoGrid and drop it on their cloud computing platform- no vendor lock-in. Undoubtedly someone will develop an open source cloud computing platform and when they do we’ll build compatibility for that for the ultimate in freedom.

I fail to see the straw man argument you refer to. Please elaborate.

Sean

]]> By: Jamaal http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-286243 Jamaal Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:28:18 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/#comment-286243 I think that you are confusing SaaS with a web client. Let me explain the difference: Software as a Service is software in someone else's datacenter. Software as a Purchase is software in your own. Web GUI != SaaS. Also, Stallman's objections to cloud computing are similar to his objections to proprietary closed-source software, but he doesn't equate them. Arguing against him by arguing that they are not the same thing is a straw man. Sorry for sounding snarky. I think JumpBoxes are cool. I think that you are confusing SaaS with a web client. Let me explain the difference: Software as a Service is software in someone else’s datacenter. Software as a Purchase is software in your own.

Web GUI != SaaS.

Also, Stallman’s objections to cloud computing are similar to his objections to proprietary closed-source software, but he doesn’t equate them. Arguing against him by arguing that they are not the same thing is a straw man.

Sorry for sounding snarky. I think JumpBoxes are cool.

]]> By: sean http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-284176 sean Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:06:09 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/#comment-284176 @Rob - wake up dude. It's real now and plenty of people are using it including ourselves. Read this case study for a scenario that wouldn't be possible any other way-> http://blog.rightscale.com/2008/04/23/animoto-facebook-scale-up @Rob – wake up dude. It’s real now and plenty of people are using it including ourselves. Read this case study for a scenario that wouldn’t be possible any other way-> http://blog.rightscale.com/2008/04/23/animoto-facebook-scale-up

]]> By: Rob McMillin http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-284021 Rob McMillin Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:23:46 +0000 http://67.106.82.230/2008/09/30/richard-stallman-is-officially-confused/#comment-284021 Wake me when "cloud computing" is more than a pair of marketing buzzwords. Wake me when “cloud computing” is more than a pair of marketing buzzwords.

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